Friday, May 30, 2008

Church Pirates



I can't seem to comment on this without cursing so I'll refrain. What do you think?

3 comments:

adam said...

this is complete crap!! our old church was a plant out of an existing church and used a few of the members of that church. his church is a church plant for crying out loud!! his opinion is so small minded...he sees it more and more because it works. smaller churches are more likely to attract the lost, especially if they're in houses because they tend to be casual and not intimidating. as a matter of fact, our old church in texas, that was a church plant out of an existing church in the area, has started two different english churches and a spanish speaking mission within 20 minutes of itself, which are all reaching the people of those communities. so, yeah, let's ignore Christ who went out to the lost, sit in our megachurches with starbucks coffee, and let the lost come to us if they want to or not if they don't...that's ok...we're doing God's work. the last time i checked Jesus wasn't a member of any synagogues in any particular city and only went to the temple on holidays!! He spent His time out with the people and that's what church plants are all about. smaller groups reaching out to specific people whether it be a neighborhood, college, or whatever...of course, he is from fellowship, and that church had the reputation in the dallas area of being huge but not personal and an easy place to go and be ignored. my guess is that some of the leaders from his church left to start a church plant with some members from his church and he's mad about it...

The Renzntzman said...

Preach on, brother Adam! Preach on!

John said...

Just to clarify, he's not talking about normal church plants, where a church intentionally sends out members and/or staff to start a new church with a specific mission. He is talking about staff members who maliciously sneak around and even lie to members and other staff members to get them to leave the church. I've seen it happen. I've also seen it happen in reverse. One church nearby called a new senior pastor, and he was so insecure that he couldn't "lead" without getting rid of the entire rest of the staff, who had been there for years. One by one he picked them off with lies and deceit, and had the church call in his buddies to be his staff. Some the former staff members left the ministry for good and some found another church that was dying and formed a new church with them. Betrayal in many forms is rampant in our churches and denominations. It would be hard to find someone who worked in the ministry for any length of time who hasn't been touched by it.

From a formerly burned out and disgusted seminary grad...